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post Nov 3 2003, 05:30 AM
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This should be stickied and where people can say and comment about the duel(s) in the forum.
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Famder
post Nov 3 2003, 05:58 AM
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Perhaps you should have one for each of the active duels so that comments don't get confused with where they are being directed.
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post Nov 3 2003, 07:15 AM
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Just use this format:

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post Nov 3 2003, 09:59 PM
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Homosexuality

MWO: And then of course there are the Amazones.

Actually, I think the Amazons are pretty much agreed as a mythic group.
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post Nov 3 2003, 10:03 PM
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zaragosa, actually. Those Freudian slips are annoying, aren't they?
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post Nov 4 2003, 05:25 AM
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Homosexuality.

I believe Edward may be trying to argue faith against facts. He is obviously not as well versed in other cultures as one would need to be to claim homosexuality "unnatural"
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post Nov 4 2003, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE (moosegod @ Nov 3 2003, 11:59 PM)
And then of course there are the Amazones.

Small joke.
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post Nov 4 2003, 01:15 PM
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Yeah, there's no debate if all of Edward's points are going to end up traced back to "Godidit."

Faith included in his case: Intelligent design, prime mover, etc. Doesn't he know he then has to prove all that? His case gets farther and farther away from its intended purpose by the post.

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post Nov 4 2003, 04:07 PM
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Sticky!
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post Nov 6 2003, 05:03 AM
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Zaragosa is really letting Edward off easy, he could easily be ripping apart his reasoning on Creator intent and ties to biology.
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post Nov 6 2003, 11:38 AM
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Yeah, just read through the thread.

Zara's being a true gentleman by not asking Ed to prove his faith based arguments.

Ed on the other hand is coming through as a true and true Edit .

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post Nov 6 2003, 11:49 PM
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It is healthy to stick your dick into another guys anus? There are no health consequences? Feces doesn't have harmful bacteria that would infect the uretha and give urinary tract infections? Blood vessels and or capalaries don't burst or rupture during anal intercourse and there is absolutely no chance of infection?


This was from Ed.

Don't lots of guys have anal sex with women?

And I don't think this rant is a really appropriate response to a statement about research.
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post Nov 7 2003, 02:19 AM
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Man, I have to restrain myself from jumping in everytime Eddy posts, he has so many problems with his arguement that it is just so hard to resist.
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post Nov 7 2003, 04:16 PM
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Amateur!

"It's wrong because God said so, according to me. Meanwhile, I have a 'theory...'"
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post Nov 9 2003, 01:24 AM
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I propose a rules change for this thread- the debaters can't post in it.
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post Nov 9 2003, 01:56 AM
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If they want to let them.
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post Nov 9 2003, 11:17 PM
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The homosexuality debate is getting boring. It rests solely (as I feared) on the assumption of creation.
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post Nov 9 2003, 11:35 PM
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Damn Sir Buckethead, I was going to move your post to this thread!
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post Nov 10 2003, 12:12 AM
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Could we put this part of the discussion over here?

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post Nov 10 2003, 12:23 AM
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I think zara may have just check mated Eddy.
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post Nov 10 2003, 12:42 AM
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THAT's what I'm talking about.

I'm finally starting to like the Duel board.
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post Nov 10 2003, 10:05 AM
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The homosexuality debate is getting boring. It rests solely (as I feared) on the assumption of creation.


What are you talking about, did you just see Zaras latest post? This is blockbuster stuff!

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post Nov 10 2003, 08:51 PM
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Reminds me of the Monty Python Flying Circus episode where Ken Clean-Air-System (Cleese) boxes with a small school girl (Connie Booth). Fun on TV, tragic in reality.
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post Nov 11 2003, 04:09 PM
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If there is another biological function that the human sperm carries out I require enlightenment, the same goes for the human egg.


So...any homosexual interaction that doesn't culminate in ejaculation is natural, normal and not deviant! But, unfortunately, masturbation is deviant, unnatural and abnormal, since the precious seed isn't being put to its purpose as designed by Invisible Sky Man. We should start having funerals for nocturnal emissions, I say! A tragedy!

We're finally getting somewhere!
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post Nov 11 2003, 09:10 PM
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Why does Eddy even bother anymore, there are so many problems with his arguement it's scary. At least we know his faith is strong, but that doesn't count for much.
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post Nov 16 2003, 02:23 PM
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Ancient peoples believed the world to be flat not because it was popular but because the evidence of thier own eyes gave that impression. They had not the knoweladge to accept other view points and those view points seemed to be false.

How many times does a boat full of loved ones lost at sea by unobserved storms have to happen before the community begins to believe that they (the seamen) did in fact fall off the "Edge of the Earth"? Especially if they have observed that the water just seems to end.


:rolleyes:


So those agreeing with Eddie are medieval compared to those not?

GOOD point, dude!
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post Nov 17 2003, 05:05 AM
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Perhaps this should be moved to the Homosexuality thread in the Science forum.
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post Dec 27 2003, 11:26 PM
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Noah's Ark:

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There are concentrations of water at which both fresh and salt water fish can survive.

But not temperatures.
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post Jan 2 2004, 06:00 PM
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Calm down. I never proposed we go by species. I just never proposed we go by kind either. Primarily because I don't know what one is. (and, it would seem, neither do you). What my proposal is that we go by the minimum unit we can and still have them evolve into the current array of diversity. If that's what a kind is, OK. If it's not, then I don't see how anything, including this "kind" business, can be more useful to my case.


As a general remark, you probably want 'kind' to be some sort of cladistic group. For instance, dinosauria is any decendent of the most recent common ancestor of Iguanodon and Megalosaurus. But your problem would be determing preciesly where that line is. To continue using dinosaur examples (since that's the group I know most about the taxonomy of).

Two Broadest groups: Saurichia and Ornithicia.

Saurichia groups: Therapoda, Sauropoda
Ornithicthicia groups: Thyreophora, Marginocephalia, Ornithopoda.

General overview of groups:

Sauropoda - long necks, big bodies. The Brachiosaurs are in here.
Therapoda - the carnivores and some omnivors, including modern birds.
Thyreophora - both Stegosaurs and Ankylorsaurs.
Marginocephalia - Pacycelphalosaurs ("butt heads") and Ceratopsians.
Ornithipoda - The 'ostritch' dinosaurs if I remeber correctly.

If kind is the smallest unit needed to get the diversity of dinosauria, you might need only three specimins. You might not - a basal Ornithician and a basal Saurischian could do it. Of course, so could a basal Dinosaur.

To use kind in this way, you'll need to figure out things such as how rapidily species diversify and how much time they have to diversify. Using dinosauria as a hypothetical, you could need one pair, two pairs, or even five pairs (one for each major grouping).

That's how 'kind' can be usefull to your case. But in order to use it, you will need to make a case for the right 'level' of species diversity.
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post Jan 3 2004, 05:54 PM
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What about the insects?

And where DID all the water go? 5 miles' worth of it, no less!
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