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JLord |
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I need a freakin life ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,399 Joined: 1-December 04 Member No.: 816 |
That's too bad. It was a stupid decision to ban you. Someone let the power get to them. Of course you should have started a new thread to debate the issue but this is unreasonable. If this keeps up, the board will be ruined. We need more regular posters like Dakyron. No reason for this extreme ban. Punishment doesn't fit the crime.
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Slyly Slythering Slytherin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Oversight Posts: 5,182 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 109 |
I gave him fair warning.
One thing I do NOT believe in is continually berating a poster about decisions, especially one which is already very difficult and emotional. Also, Dak had multiple posts of his deleted in a similar vein. This should have been a hint. QUOTE . Someone let the power get to them Actually, I let the emotions get to me. But hey, Sastan is always free to (a) overturn, (b) remove me. |
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Slyly Slythering Slytherin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Oversight Posts: 5,182 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 109 |
Incidentally, I'm going to kick this upstairs to him (along with my reasoning) for review.
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Always trust a bank manager. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: JFTD Posts: 7,267 Joined: 4-March 03 From: Better than California Awesome Level: High Member No.: 276 |
So am I right in understanding he was banned for stating his political views on abortion and death, but AH was allowed to roam freely about the death of a 16 year old girl for two years?
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Is better at economics than 78% of economists ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 7,978 Joined: 17-July 02 From: NY, NY Member No.: 81 |
Yes but he had the poor sense to offend the sensibilites in a situation that involves people that the Staff happens to like.
Really you should be applauding our efforts at reform and higher standards. |
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Lithfo |
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Always trust a bank manager. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: JFTD Posts: 7,267 Joined: 4-March 03 From: Better than California Awesome Level: High Member No.: 276 |
Speaking of which, this mildly reminds me off Llywelyn making rules that specifically protected either himself or his former girlfriend. I will admit, however, this really isn't really even all that close to the same thing. The situation is just familiar.
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Slyly Slythering Slytherin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Oversight Posts: 5,182 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 109 |
QUOTE(Lithfo @ Jun 15 2005, 06:34 PM) So am I right in understanding he was banned for stating his political views on abortion and death, but AH was allowed to roam freely about the death of a 16 year old girl for two years? 1. He was banned for stating them to someone actively considering it, in a moralising form, despite repeated requests to knock it off. It's called sensitivity for people in a difficult time. 2. In case you didn't notice, I was not OS during AH trolling about Mallory. My policy would probably have been rather different. 3. I just created the thread in the appropriate board to get Sastan started on the review process. |
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Always trust a bank manager. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: JFTD Posts: 7,267 Joined: 4-March 03 From: Better than California Awesome Level: High Member No.: 276 |
I know you weren't OS at the time. It's just I feel there's going to be a semi-concensus leaning your way on this issue. I thought I'd nip the hyprocrisy right now.
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Fwap fwap fwap [/Lithfo] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,479 Joined: 2-March 04 Member No.: 662 |
I agree with Lithfy. As tremendous a fun as it was troll him about his nocturnal activities, we went a lot further than Daky was going and got somewhat free rein to do so.
I really think you should dial Daky's ban back to a week. |
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Lurker-in-Chief ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 3,232 Joined: 11-March 03 From: Detroit, 3rd world corruption with a 1st world economy Member No.: 281 |
I'm not going to go off at length on the (in)justice of Daky's ban. I'm really not going to be the most objective judge on it. I will say this, though, on the matter of Lithfo. I took a zero-tolerance approach to the Mallory/Necrophelia jokes as soon as I became a mod, and have done my best to stick to that. So, there were efforts underway even before Adam was OS to crack down on that kind of stuff.
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Just me ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,204 Joined: 18-August 02 From: California, USA Member No.: 114 |
Dakyron,
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Perhaps when you can act your age, you'll be welcome here. Until then, go stalk some other woman wrestling with the decision of whether to have an abortion or not. I'm sure you and your ilk will find plenty of people to torment outside the nearest Planned Parenthood clinic; and be sure to bring the pictures and props along. :angry: QUOTE(Lithfo @ Jun 15 2005, 03:34 PM) So am I right in understanding he was banned for stating his political views on abortion and death, but AH was allowed to roam freely about the death of a 16 year old girl for two years? (1) This was AHB, not flame wars. AH's stuff got deleted and he got warns most (if not all) of the time he went on the necrophilia crap outside of flamewars. (2) Are you saying that the staff can't learn from mistakes? That because the staff were IMHO too lenient towards AH that Dakyron's shit must be allowed now? (3) Where is AH now? |
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The Poster Formerly Known as Y2A |
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Political Prisoner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,435 Joined: 14-June 03 From: The Great State of New Jersey Member No.: 388 |
I can't believe it came to this. Dak will be back, he's already addicted.
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A drunk from KY. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,478 Joined: 7-June 03 Member No.: 377 |
Bullshit.
Dak is a great poster and should stay. Just because he stated his position on abortion? Even more bullshit. But hey, it's a great board; keep banning posters for inane reasons and let others roam freely. |
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The Poster Formerly Known as Y2A |
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Political Prisoner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,435 Joined: 14-June 03 From: The Great State of New Jersey Member No.: 388 |
I'm starting to agree with Coffee and the others that say this ban is too long. Indeed, I agree he should be banned, but one month. He should just get the regular 7 days. Though I certainly don't agree with Dak (seriously, how could you just relentlessly attack Lady B like that, even Ed the most con of the cons thought that was way out of line), I still think this is to long. Rules mean nothing unless they are followed.
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Child, allow me to comfort you in your time of need ^______^ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: JFTD Posts: 3,640 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 261 |
QUOTE Tell them its fine... I wouldnt feel comfortable being there anymore with the LBs, so tell them there is no real reason to debate the topic... Dakyron Member Jun 15th 11:34 PM |
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Always trust a bank manager. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: JFTD Posts: 7,267 Joined: 4-March 03 From: Better than California Awesome Level: High Member No.: 276 |
QUOTE(QWOT @ Jun 15 2005, 11:19 PM) (1) This was AHB, not flame wars. AH's stuff got deleted and he got warns most (if not all) of the time he went on the necrophilia crap outside of flamewars. (2) Are you saying that the staff can't learn from mistakes? That because the staff were IMHO too lenient towards AH that Dakyron's shit must be allowed now? (3) Where is AH now? You all called me a whiner, let a lot of his crap go through once you became annoyed with me, then ended up banning him because he started to annoy you more. If he had of stuck mostly to just myself and maybe a couple others, he would have never been permabanned. EDIT: LB is by far the best mod when it comes to this stuff. I thank him. Especially considering that I'm pretty sure he doesn't particularly like me, yet he still makes the right decisions. This post has been edited by Lithfo: Jun 16 2005, 08:01 AM |
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Fwap fwap fwap [/Lithfo] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,479 Joined: 2-March 04 Member No.: 662 |
Indeed, it's interesting what happens when people actually like the poster being targeted.
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A man of wit, refinement and beer. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,400 Joined: 16-August 02 From: Australia Member No.: 101 |
The Beer summary: Dakyron acts like an insensitive, self-righteous asshole; Adam drops the hammer, Dakyron takes his bat and ball and goes home. Big deal.
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Child, allow me to comfort you in your time of need ^______^ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: JFTD Posts: 3,640 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 261 |
Shenny's final word: Dak is not a troll and shouldn't be treated like one.
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False Mirror ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,771 Joined: 25-June 02 From: Brussels, Belgium Member No.: 62 |
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Child, allow me to comfort you in your time of need ^______^ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: JFTD Posts: 3,640 Joined: 11-February 03 Member No.: 261 |
Menace my ass, he was being a pompous longwinded ass. Nothing more
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Brilliant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,021 Joined: 28-May 05 From: Casa del JLB Member No.: 859 |
I wouldn't expect Dakyron to be silent on this matter. If I thought someone was about to commit murder (I don't think abortion is murder but obviously Dakyron does), I would try to discourage him/her. I don't think he was trying to be an ass. I think he has a very strong opinion on the matter is all.
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The Poster Formerly Known as Y2A |
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Political Prisoner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,435 Joined: 14-June 03 From: The Great State of New Jersey Member No.: 388 |
He still deserved a ban (though not a 30 day ban). You can't go around saying "your a murderer" followed by incredibly large pictures of babies.
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I need a freakin life ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,399 Joined: 1-December 04 Member No.: 816 |
I don't think he was trying to be an ass either. But he was. However, that should never in my opinion warrant a ban of any kind. For me, a person should only be banned if over the course of weeks or months there is an overwhelming feeling of contempt towards that poster by a large number of other people. By contempt I mean that people see the poster in question as ruining the board itself through bad posting. That would be my requirements, not just saying something that is tactless or disrespectful.
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Brilliant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,021 Joined: 28-May 05 From: Casa del JLB Member No.: 859 |
QUOTE(The Poster Formerly Known as Y2A @ Jun 16 2005, 11:57 AM) He still deserved a ban (though not a 30 day ban). You can't go around saying "your a murderer" followed by incredibly large pictures of babies. I didn't see that post. It must have been deleted. |
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I need a freakin life ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,399 Joined: 1-December 04 Member No.: 816 |
You can see it in the recycle bin. And I agree that you shouldn't post those things. That's why mods can delete things.
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speaker of ideas that terrify the right on this board. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,144 Joined: 29-June 02 From: LANCASTRIA Member No.: 72 |
soon there will only be adam an ds debating how right each other are. with me popping in from time to time calling them names.
cliquey or what? |
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A drunk from KY. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,478 Joined: 7-June 03 Member No.: 377 |
So, let me get this straight: he said abortion is murder and posted pictures of babies? God damn him for stating his opinion sarcastically and within a manor that fits his personality.
He's not a fucking troll, he's a sarcastic ass. People have popped in and out of abortion threads on this forum before saying "What's funnier than a dead baby? A dead baby sitting next to a kid with down syndrome!" |
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Fwap fwap fwap [/Lithfo] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,479 Joined: 2-March 04 Member No.: 662 |
Heh, that's pretty funny actually.
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