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"Better ten guilty acquitted than one innocent man convicted."
I've heard this quote or numerous similar quotes many times. I never really paid much attention to it until now But now that I do, I find it to be completely absurd especially if the crime involved is a violent one. First of all, if you say 10 to 1, why not 20 to 1? 100 to 1? 1000 to 1? Why risk sending an innocent man to prison at all? Let's examine a 1 to 1 ratio. Is society really better off with a predator on the streets if it keeps 1 innocent man out of prison? Being that this is a philosophy forum, I expect plenty of abstract rhetoric and nonsense involving the word liberty. I'm sure I won't be disappointed. I'd prefer to examine the question from a practical perspective, however. |
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Bayesian methodology 10 guilty men vs. 1 innocent man Jun 1 2005, 12:52 PM
acow If the majority of men gain from them lining up an... Jun 1 2005, 01:06 PM
Bayesian methodology Can you please explain in simpler terms? I have... Jun 1 2005, 01:33 PM
Benevolent Potentially, yes, depending upon the exact benef... Jun 1 2005, 01:55 PM
gnuneo its quite simple: would *you* volunteer to be the... Jun 1 2005, 02:53 PM
Bayesian methodology Would *you* volunteer to be one of the victims o... Jun 1 2005, 03:15 PM
gnuneo however the odds favour innocent people going to p... Jun 1 2005, 03:26 PM
acow Um...lets try some rhetorical questions. 1. Wh... Jun 1 2005, 03:29 PM
Bayesian methodology Let's define society (for the sake of our di... Jun 1 2005, 03:36 PM
miltonfriedman since you espouse Bayesian updating (a correct way... Jun 1 2005, 04:05 PM
Sir Buckethead "If the majority of men gain from them lining... Jun 2 2005, 01:59 AM
acow Short response for now: Yes, but the notion of mi... Jun 2 2005, 08:45 AM
Sir Buckethead Then examine it practically. Our legal system alr... Jun 2 2005, 07:21 PM
Arilou Yes it does, however, in most cases compensation... Jun 3 2005, 02:19 PM
Jelinek To answer your question you have to look at the ra... Jun 2 2005, 07:49 PM
JLord If you look at it only from the physical harm to s... Jun 3 2005, 03:53 PM
Sir Buckethead "If you look at it only from the physical har... Jun 3 2005, 08:35 PM
JLord NO Because the principles of reasonable doubt... Jun 3 2005, 10:10 PM
Sir Buckethead and, just so we can jump a bit ahead: If you would... Jun 3 2005, 08:47 PM
Sir Buckethead I'm not proposing eliminating those principles... Jun 3 2005, 10:40 PM
JLord "reasonable doubt" as a legal term of ... Jun 3 2005, 10:45 PM
Sir Buckethead i didnt say it wasnt remotely defined, i said it w... Jun 4 2005, 12:11 AM
JLord Well of course you could redefine it. What I mean... Jun 4 2005, 12:26 AM
Deus Ex Machina Are you claiming that these minorities are actual... Jun 9 2005, 09:40 AM
Gengari There's an old saying amongst defense lawyers.... Jun 9 2005, 11:20 AM
Dragonspirit I take the general meaning behind the phrase to me... Jun 11 2005, 11:08 PM
Bayesian methodology http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentar...2_22_... Feb 22 2006, 07:32 PM
necrolyte He even gets the numbers right. Feb 22 2006, 09:43 PM
necrolyte It depends on the punishment. I think its one of t... Feb 22 2006, 09:42 PM
Dakyron Go work at a prison, you'll change your mind... Feb 22 2006, 10:27 PM
libvertaruan You would do such things if you had life in prison... Feb 22 2006, 10:44 PM
JLord Dak - If you went to prison you would probably do ... Feb 22 2006, 11:25 PM
Dakyron Why? Why would prison suddenly and dramatically ... Feb 23 2006, 12:38 AM
JLord Mabye you've heard of something called pre-e... Feb 23 2006, 06:14 PM
Dakyron Yes, this is legitimately self-defense. Why ... Feb 23 2006, 06:31 PM
JLord That's true but it would also be extremely c... Feb 23 2006, 06:47 PM
zaragosa I think a lot of people here are missing an import... Feb 23 2006, 07:48 PM
acow If the majority of men gain from them lining up an... Jun 1 2005, 01:06 PM
Bayesian methodology Can you please explain in simpler terms? I have... Jun 1 2005, 01:33 PM
Benevolent Potentially, yes, depending upon the exact benef... Jun 1 2005, 01:55 PM
gnuneo its quite simple: would *you* volunteer to be the... Jun 1 2005, 02:53 PM
Bayesian methodology Would *you* volunteer to be one of the victims o... Jun 1 2005, 03:15 PM
gnuneo however the odds favour innocent people going to p... Jun 1 2005, 03:26 PM
acow Um...lets try some rhetorical questions. 1. Wh... Jun 1 2005, 03:29 PM
Bayesian methodology Let's define society (for the sake of our di... Jun 1 2005, 03:36 PM
miltonfriedman since you espouse Bayesian updating (a correct way... Jun 1 2005, 04:05 PM
Sir Buckethead "If the majority of men gain from them lining... Jun 2 2005, 01:59 AM
acow Short response for now: Yes, but the notion of mi... Jun 2 2005, 08:45 AM
Sir Buckethead Then examine it practically. Our legal system alr... Jun 2 2005, 07:21 PM
Arilou Yes it does, however, in most cases compensation... Jun 3 2005, 02:19 PM
Jelinek To answer your question you have to look at the ra... Jun 2 2005, 07:49 PM
JLord If you look at it only from the physical harm to s... Jun 3 2005, 03:53 PM
Sir Buckethead "If you look at it only from the physical har... Jun 3 2005, 08:35 PM
JLord NO Because the principles of reasonable doubt... Jun 3 2005, 10:10 PM
Sir Buckethead and, just so we can jump a bit ahead: If you would... Jun 3 2005, 08:47 PM
Sir Buckethead I'm not proposing eliminating those principles... Jun 3 2005, 10:40 PM
JLord "reasonable doubt" as a legal term of ... Jun 3 2005, 10:45 PM
Sir Buckethead i didnt say it wasnt remotely defined, i said it w... Jun 4 2005, 12:11 AM
JLord Well of course you could redefine it. What I mean... Jun 4 2005, 12:26 AM
Deus Ex Machina Are you claiming that these minorities are actual... Jun 9 2005, 09:40 AM
Gengari There's an old saying amongst defense lawyers.... Jun 9 2005, 11:20 AM
Dragonspirit I take the general meaning behind the phrase to me... Jun 11 2005, 11:08 PM
Bayesian methodology http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentar...2_22_... Feb 22 2006, 07:32 PM
necrolyte He even gets the numbers right. Feb 22 2006, 09:43 PM
necrolyte It depends on the punishment. I think its one of t... Feb 22 2006, 09:42 PM
Dakyron Go work at a prison, you'll change your mind... Feb 22 2006, 10:27 PM
libvertaruan You would do such things if you had life in prison... Feb 22 2006, 10:44 PM
JLord Dak - If you went to prison you would probably do ... Feb 22 2006, 11:25 PM
Dakyron Why? Why would prison suddenly and dramatically ... Feb 23 2006, 12:38 AM
JLord Mabye you've heard of something called pre-e... Feb 23 2006, 06:14 PM
Dakyron Yes, this is legitimately self-defense. Why ... Feb 23 2006, 06:31 PM
JLord That's true but it would also be extremely c... Feb 23 2006, 06:47 PM
zaragosa I think a lot of people here are missing an import... Feb 23 2006, 07:48 PM
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