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"Better ten guilty acquitted than one innocent man convicted."

I've heard this quote or numerous similar quotes many times. I never really paid much attention to it until now But now that I do, I find it to be completely absurd especially if the crime involved is a violent one. First of all, if you say 10 to 1, why not 20 to 1? 100 to 1? 1000 to 1? Why risk sending an innocent man to prison at all?

Let's examine a 1 to 1 ratio. Is society really better off with a predator on the streets if it keeps 1 innocent man out of prison? Being that this is a philosophy forum, I expect plenty of abstract rhetoric and nonsense involving the word liberty. I'm sure I won't be disappointed. I'd prefer to examine the question from a practical perspective, however.
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Bayesian methodology   10 guilty men vs. 1 innocent man   Jun 1 2005, 12:52 PM
acow   If the majority of men gain from them lining up an...   Jun 1 2005, 01:06 PM
Bayesian methodology   Can you please explain in simpler terms? I have...   Jun 1 2005, 01:33 PM
Benevolent   Potentially, yes, depending upon the exact benef...   Jun 1 2005, 01:55 PM
gnuneo   its quite simple: would *you* volunteer to be the...   Jun 1 2005, 02:53 PM
Bayesian methodology   Would *you* volunteer to be one of the victims o...   Jun 1 2005, 03:15 PM
gnuneo   however the odds favour innocent people going to p...   Jun 1 2005, 03:26 PM
acow   Um...lets try some rhetorical questions. 1. Wh...   Jun 1 2005, 03:29 PM
Bayesian methodology   Let's define society (for the sake of our di...   Jun 1 2005, 03:36 PM
miltonfriedman   since you espouse Bayesian updating (a correct way...   Jun 1 2005, 04:05 PM
Sir Buckethead   "If the majority of men gain from them lining...   Jun 2 2005, 01:59 AM
acow   Short response for now: Yes, but the notion of mi...   Jun 2 2005, 08:45 AM
Sir Buckethead   Then examine it practically. Our legal system alr...   Jun 2 2005, 07:21 PM
Arilou   Yes it does, however, in most cases compensation...   Jun 3 2005, 02:19 PM
Jelinek   To answer your question you have to look at the ra...   Jun 2 2005, 07:49 PM
JLord   If you look at it only from the physical harm to s...   Jun 3 2005, 03:53 PM
Sir Buckethead   "If you look at it only from the physical har...   Jun 3 2005, 08:35 PM
JLord   NO Because the principles of reasonable doubt...   Jun 3 2005, 10:10 PM
Sir Buckethead   and, just so we can jump a bit ahead: If you would...   Jun 3 2005, 08:47 PM
Sir Buckethead   I'm not proposing eliminating those principles...   Jun 3 2005, 10:40 PM
JLord   "reasonable doubt" as a legal term of ...   Jun 3 2005, 10:45 PM
Sir Buckethead   i didnt say it wasnt remotely defined, i said it w...   Jun 4 2005, 12:11 AM
JLord   Well of course you could redefine it. What I mean...   Jun 4 2005, 12:26 AM
Deus Ex Machina   Are you claiming that these minorities are actual...   Jun 9 2005, 09:40 AM
Gengari   There's an old saying amongst defense lawyers....   Jun 9 2005, 11:20 AM
Dragonspirit   I take the general meaning behind the phrase to me...   Jun 11 2005, 11:08 PM
Bayesian methodology   http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentar...2_22_...   Feb 22 2006, 07:32 PM
necrolyte   He even gets the numbers right.   Feb 22 2006, 09:43 PM
necrolyte   It depends on the punishment. I think its one of t...   Feb 22 2006, 09:42 PM
Dakyron   Go work at a prison, you'll change your mind...   Feb 22 2006, 10:27 PM
libvertaruan   You would do such things if you had life in prison...   Feb 22 2006, 10:44 PM
JLord   Dak - If you went to prison you would probably do ...   Feb 22 2006, 11:25 PM
Dakyron   Why? Why would prison suddenly and dramatically ...   Feb 23 2006, 12:38 AM
JLord   Mabye you've heard of something called pre-e...   Feb 23 2006, 06:14 PM
Dakyron   Yes, this is legitimately self-defense. Why ...   Feb 23 2006, 06:31 PM
JLord   That's true but it would also be extremely c...   Feb 23 2006, 06:47 PM
zaragosa   I think a lot of people here are missing an import...   Feb 23 2006, 07:48 PM

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