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OK this is bordering in philosophy, so I might post something similair in the philosophy section, but this will deal more with the scientific side.

How would one program a computer to:
(1) be self-aware
(2) come to a "best possible" solution when no perfect solution is findable
(3) has a desire to learn
(4) can feel emotion
(5) sends its thoughts through logical loops which consider previous memories and thoughts
(6) can formulate opinions based on facts
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necrolyte   Create a thinking machine   Sep 1 2004, 11:17 PM
Ferran   (1) I would htink that the easiest way to make a c...   Sep 1 2004, 11:34 PM
Sephiroth   I'm a Computer Science major and this is way b...   Sep 2 2004, 01:27 AM
Telum   A computer that runs on binary circuits cant be se...   Sep 2 2004, 01:28 AM
Deus Ex Machina   On the yes/no level, that may be true. However, c...   Sep 2 2004, 03:52 AM
Sephiroth   Computers don't have the speed needed to run s...   Sep 2 2004, 01:37 AM
zkajan   i remember reading that animals make decisions bas...   Sep 2 2004, 02:17 AM
necrolyte   I use fuzzy logic when I'm trying to decide wh...   Sep 2 2004, 03:02 AM
libvertaruan   Its called bottom-up programming, and that is, I...   Sep 2 2004, 04:05 AM
Russian   you narrow the scope. Do you want a computer to ...   Sep 2 2004, 04:07 AM
Deus Ex Machina   Why is it impossible for a computer system to mi...   Sep 2 2004, 05:50 AM
necrolyte   I would want such a thing to be constructed to see...   Sep 2 2004, 04:23 AM
libvertaruan   Russian, you are a fucking idiot to not understa...   Sep 2 2004, 04:25 AM
zaragosa   I personally think we're practically there. Th...   Sep 2 2004, 09:56 AM
Telum   If we can reproduce everything with so much mor...   Sep 2 2004, 10:21 PM
Llywelyn   There is a difference between the model and the sy...   Sep 2 2004, 10:08 AM
Deus Ex Machina   Would it be possible for Jew to explain Penrose...   Sep 2 2004, 11:33 PM
Llywelyn   In a nutshell he claims that the brain is functi...   Sep 3 2004, 12:03 AM
Deus Ex Machina   That's certianly interesting. I can't sa...   Sep 3 2004, 04:59 AM
Nalvaros   You'd probably want to look up artificial inte...   Sep 2 2004, 11:04 AM
Russian   what if its instructions are to make a choice? ...   Sep 2 2004, 04:01 PM
Llywelyn   ...and then what? How does it make that choice?...   Sep 2 2004, 04:05 PM
Russian   for it to win more then one chess game it has to m...   Sep 2 2004, 04:10 PM
Llywelyn   The mechanisms that its uses (a-b searches, book...   Sep 2 2004, 04:54 PM
kindfluffysteve   the best way to program it is to let it program it...   Sep 3 2004, 02:31 AM
zkajan   yup, kfs has it. babies are born with a bunch of...   Sep 3 2004, 04:28 AM
kindfluffysteve   people can talk about the 1's and 0's as j...   Sep 3 2004, 04:20 AM
zaragosa   What's the difference? Intelligence is, for a...   Sep 3 2004, 10:43 AM
Llywelyn   SimplY: There is a difference between the model ...   Sep 3 2004, 11:32 AM
zaragosa   But that's not what's going on. We have o...   Sep 3 2004, 12:56 PM
Llywelyn   That is exactly what is going on. The fact that...   Sep 3 2004, 01:55 PM
zaragosa   You're missing the point. I'm saying that...   Sep 4 2004, 09:51 AM
Forben   needs to create its own variables. definition of ...   Sep 3 2004, 11:18 AM
Ferran   You:...You're flawed. Jabb:...Sure thing. Most...   Sep 3 2004, 11:43 PM
Nalvaros   I must disagree. Intelligence cannot simply be the...   Sep 5 2004, 07:39 AM
Deus Ex Machina   Sure, computers today aren't intelligent by ...   Sep 5 2004, 04:26 PM
zaragosa   The output rendered by computers today isn't ...   Sep 5 2004, 05:38 PM
zkajan   i disagree, intelligence is output. even with hu...   Sep 5 2004, 07:03 PM
Llywelyn   Zaragosa, you have claimed that we are "pract...   Sep 5 2004, 01:47 PM
zaragosa   practically, adv. 3: All but; nearly; almost   Sep 5 2004, 05:36 PM
Llywelyn   I quote myself: Emphasis added.   Sep 5 2004, 06:28 PM
zaragosa   I never implied that the evolution towards AI was ...   Sep 5 2004, 06:59 PM
Llywelyn   In other words, we need a conceptual leap that w...   Sep 10 2004, 09:31 AM
acow   "Thinking" or "conscious"? Or...   Sep 10 2004, 08:13 AM
zaragosa   Neither 'conscious', nor 'thinking...   Sep 10 2004, 08:52 AM
Llywelyn   Familiar with Searle's Chinese Room?   Sep 10 2004, 09:15 AM
Llywelyn   For those who don't know. Baumgartner summari...   Sep 10 2004, 09:22 AM
zaragosa   Yes. I could reformulate it like this: As soon as...   Sep 10 2004, 09:55 AM
Llywelyn   Nope, you are confusing the basic argument with ...   Sep 10 2004, 10:58 AM
zaragosa   Why does that matter? I don't think anyone is...   Sep 10 2004, 02:56 PM
Llywelyn   Searle already countered this objection when he ...   Sep 10 2004, 09:57 PM
zaragosa   At which point the operator, possessing the entir...   Sep 11 2004, 06:04 AM
zaragosa   "You insist that there is something a machine...   Sep 10 2004, 10:07 AM
kindfluffysteve   what is knowledge? what is meaning? what is t...   Sep 11 2004, 01:11 AM
Sephiroth   Aren't there some kind of artificial intellige...   Sep 12 2004, 06:39 PM
zaragosa   In a limited way, just like in chess, yes.   Sep 12 2004, 07:19 PM
Sephiroth   Maybe we can build on that.   Sep 12 2004, 07:53 PM
Deus Ex Machina   IMO, the way chess (et al.) AI works is much too ...   Sep 12 2004, 09:31 PM
libvertaruan   No. That would be far more complicated. http...   Sep 15 2004, 06:49 PM
zaragosa   Well, humans use heuristics, too, we're just b...   Sep 12 2004, 09:35 PM
Deus Ex Machina   I was under the impression that that's what h...   Sep 18 2004, 04:55 AM
zaragosa   But then again, I used to teach chess, and I didn...   Sep 13 2004, 07:12 PM
zaragosa   Yes, those are heuristics, and computers have a ve...   Sep 18 2004, 06:27 PM
Forben   couldn't we set up a genetic algorithm so that...   Sep 22 2004, 11:09 AM
zaragosa   A sine wave or Walsh wave could do that, but what...   Sep 22 2004, 02:44 PM
gnuneo   intelligence =/= consciousness but that is exac...   Jun 1 2006, 11:15 PM


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