Falconist Party 2.0, The Falconist Party is back Options

[Praetor]

The Falconist Party is back with a new website, a new logo, a new 40-Point platform, a myspace group, and a new national mailing address. We are now accepting applications for membership as well as to establish branches and units of our movement nationwide.

[ro4444]

Not again.

http://www.utopia-politics.com/forums/inde...c=13887&hl=

[RightWing]

I pwnd your face in our debate

[Praetor]

What does Pwnd mean?

[RightWing]

means move this thread to flame wars pls

[necrolyte]

Your website fails at loading at a respectable pace.

[Praetor]

I'll bring that to the attention of our web hosting provider, sitecube. In the meantime, here is our 40 point platform.

40 Point Platform of the Falconist Party:

01. We call for the enactment of laws that would increase voter participation; reform campaign financing; and even the playing field for all political parties in the USA.

02. We call for a series of Constitutional amendments that will reform Presidential elections; that will allow minor parties more of a say in our government while making it possible for any party to attain a majority; as well as allow the people to make and invalidate laws, amend the Constitution, and set aside Supreme Court decisions in national referendums

03. We call for the reform of the financial sector which would include replacing the Federal Reserve with a government-owned and operated Bank of the United States.

04. We call for real tax reform including replacing the income and payroll tax with a Progressive Consumption Tax.

05. We call for the largest rebuilding program in American history to be implemented to expedite the movement of goods and services; relieve traffic congestion, provide excellent health care; provide excellent educational services; refine and distribute drinking water from our oceans; to meet Americas growing energy demands; and to put millions of people to work at living wages.

06. We call for the reservation of welfare for those who are elderly, infirm, and those who need a temporary helping hand. All those who can work shall work in the private sector if possible, in public service if necessary.

07. We call for the consolidation and reorganization of federal agencies and offices across the board to make government more efficient as well as more effective.

08. We call for the consolidation cities and counties across America to reduce the cost and graft of municipal government as well as handle problems that transcend current municipal boundaries such as urban sprawl.

09. We call for all employers and employees to be represented in a US Chamber of Commerce (USCC) which will work with the US Government in formulating economic policy.

10. We call for the replacement of meticulous economic regulation with national broad ranged economic goals and creating a system of incentives for industry to meet national economic goals.

11. We call for the democratization of transnational corporations through expanded customer and employee stock-ownership programs.

12. We call for policies that would preserve and revitalize family farms as well as small town America.

13. We call for a real energy policy which will include the conversion of Americas economy from a fossil fuel based economy to a solar-nuclear-hydrogen economy.

14. We call for the implementation of Universal Military Training and Mandatory National Service (civil and military).

15. We call for increased benefits for veterans and increased pay of career military personnel.

16. We call for the expansion and reform of the US Military.

17. We call for the issuing of weapons to all law-abiding citizens as well as training all citizens in personal protection and homeland defense.

18. We call for the unification of all federal law enforcement agencies into a U.S. Police Force.

19. We call for reform of the judicial system and for justice that fair, swift, and if necessary, harsh.

20. We call for reform of the corrections system to rehabilitate as well as punish offenders; segregate the violent from the nonviolent offenders; and to reduce recidivism.

21. We call for the recruitment, hiring, training, and deployment of a more police officers on Americas streets, arming them to the teeth, and increasing the pay and benefits of law enforcement officers.

22. We call for the recruitment, hiring, training, and deployment of more firefighters and rescue workers as well as increasing their pay and benefits.

23. We call for the increased funding of education overall, increased pay of teachers; national education standards; allowing real choice between public, private, charter, nonprofit, or home schooling; and reforming education to produce a population that is employable, productive, literate, and possesses civic virtue.

24. We call for making a university education attainable for all through an expanded GI Bill, increased ROTC and Police Corps scholarships, and increased appointments to the military colleges.

25. We call for increased financial aid for those seeking graduate degrees.

26. We call for increased legal immigration; however, we also call for the thorough assimilation of those immigrants into American society as well as the fortification of Americas borders to deter illegal immigration as well as drug smuggling, terrorism and human trafficking. all immigrants to learn english and swear to love and respect our flag. There shall not be any hanging of flags other than the American Flag, unless they also hang the American Flag beside it, while abiding the Flag Ettiquite. All illegal immigrants should be deported at their own expense and with no trial, the police should prosecute all those who are here illegally.

27. We call for the reform of our health care system to reduce the cost of health care to American society; to provide access to health care for all; to preserve citizens choice of doctor, treatment, and payment for health care; and to promote research and development into medical cures, treatments, and technologies,.

28. We call for the enactment of pro-family policies such as annual tax credits for children; encouraging the adoption of older and at-risk children; and the outlawing of abortion in the USA.

29. We call for laws that will restore public morality and discourage smoking, drinking, gambling, and pornography.

30. We call for both secular and faith-based institutions be eligible for public funding

31. We call for laws and programs that will extend formal equality and equality of opportunity for all people of color and background.

32. We call for the repeal of laws and policies that restrict people of faith from practicing their beliefs.

33. We call for the rebuilding of all cities, including our nations capital to eliminate slums, reduce crime, create vibrant, prosperous and vibrant communities, and to provide affordable housing.

34. We call for withdraw of the USA from the WTO, NAFTA and GATT and for unilateral foreign policies.

35. We call for military action against all regimes worldwide engaged in terrorism, tyranny, drug and human trafficking, atrocity, and genocide.

36. We call for the overhaul and expansion of the US Peace Corps and the US Foreign Service to make it more able to handle nation-building roles.

37. We call for the expansion of the United States by inviting soverign nations to join our union as states or territories.

38. We call for the colonization of the oceans to provide new resources for the people of America and the world.

39. We call for the development of a mature space transportation system; the colonization of the Moon, Mars, and other planets; and the establishment of space colonies in low Earth orbit.

40. We call for the abolition of home rule in Washington D.C.; for DC to be administered by the US Government; for the expansion of Washington DC into Maryland and Virginia; and for Washington DC to be rebuilt as the most glorious, prosperous, cleanest, and safest in the world.



This post has been edited by Praetor: Oct 21 2006, 06:24 AM

[Sovy Kurosei]

Oh no. Not this again.

[Nalvaros]

Now I know why the party has 40 points worth of platform. They start off sounding reasonable, and progressively get more and more rediculous - clearly, the Falcon Party is banking on voters reading the first few, thinking its OK and not reading the rest.

I fully expect that if Falcon Party ever reaches its 100th platform, point No 100 will be:

100: We call for the ascension of the US into Godhood, above and beyond all other gods, and proclaiming authority and rulership over all things in existence.

[The Big Unit]

Now I know why the party has 40 points worth of platform. They start off sounding reasonable, and progressively get more and more rediculous - clearly, the Falcon Party is banking on voters reading the first few, thinking its OK and not reading the rest.

I fully expect that if Falcon Party ever reaches its 100th platform, point No 100 will be:

100: We call for the ascension of the US into Godhood, above and beyond all other gods, and proclaiming authority and rulership over all things in existence.

Really? "Start off sounding reasonable?" I'm up to point three and already calling "Bullshit."

Rebuttal thread to come. It may take a while.

[Nalvaros]

OK, so there are some outrageous points early on as well and I made mental mistakes regarding their placement on the list. You would too if you were dredging through your 10th or so white paper. Everything is hazy right now :S

[acow]

Did anyone else notice the general trend of taxes down, government size and spending up?

[The Big Unit]

Did anyone else notice the general trend of taxes down, government size and spending up?

Among other disturbing trends, yes.

I'm quite suprised that there's no "Wait for spaceship that is coming behind a comet" point.

This post has been edited by Harry Kewell: Oct 21 2006, 10:43 AM

[MindsWideOpen]

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[Y2A]

I've seen this guy supporting his one-man "Falconist Party" on various other forums.

Move to flame wars.

[Praetor]

Actually, were more than one man now. Our myspace group has 1300 members currently and we are awaiting applications for Falconist Party membership and establishing branches and units of our movement nationwide.

[Y2A]

Actually, were more than one man now. Our myspace group has 1300 members currently and we are awaiting applications for Falconist Party membership and establishing branches and units of our movement nationwide.

Anyone can go on myspace and randomly invite people to groups.

[gnuneo]

damn, actually a lot of this makes sense.

but a lot of it doesnt at all.

and its also largely contradictory. apparently democracy will be strengthened, yet the US will become a military camp - preusmably indoctrination on the chinese model will be needed to get the US population behind its total militarisation, yet apparently education will be strengthened in a positive way.

i do wonder what happens when the clash between americans, democratically empowered, meet the ruler's notions of militarisation in open democratic conflict.

will democracy or militarisation prevail?

upon that rests whether this is a democratisation political platform, or an out and out nazi one.


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[Praetor]

You think this platform sounds contradictatory, but it isn't.

For one thing, our party is consistent across the board as for the amount of public sector involvement. Our party is the total opposite of libertarianism. We are the only party that is pro-life on abortion yet also calls for universal health insurance. We are the only party that is to the left on fiscal and economic issues but to the right on social and cultural issues.

As for democracy vs. a military camp. The system we are proposing is a system similar to what they have in Israel and Switzerland. When I last checked, both of those nations are considered democracies.

Some people would think by arming the citizens and heavily arming the police, we are contradicting ourselves. But our idea is to outnumber and outgun the criminals. Between a citizenry armed and trained in personal protection and a heavily armed police force, crime should be drastically reduced. Not to mention an armed citizentry would keep a government with a heavily armed police force from becoming tyrannical.

[gnuneo]

however i can't recall any swiss MP calling for massive militarisation to achieve global dominance.

in fact the case is rather the opposite.


and as most americans WANT:

29. ...smoking, drinking, gambling, and pornography.

then its hard to see how improving the USs democratic accountability is not going to create conflict between the leadership of the Party and the People.

[Jew]

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[gnuneo]

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[Praetor]

We are not Nazis. To begin with, we are a transethnic, transracial, transeconomic, transfaith, transgeographic movement. We do not discriminate against any particular ethnic or cultural group.

Second, we don't advocate the abolition of democracy. On the contrary, the reforms we propose will give greater power over to the people.

Third, we don't plan to annex nations through military conquest. Force will be reserved for removing regimes worldwide egnaged in terrorism and tyranny or have fallen into anarchy. Otherwise, we would invite other nations to join our union as states or territories depending on their level of development.

We also may grow the USA through the purchase of territory from other nations like Greenland from Denmark or Siberia from Russia.

[Urquhart]

EAGLE-ist PARTY:

1. EVERYONE GETS 1 MILLION US DOLLAR
2. NO MORE TAXES
3. WE WILL MAINTAIN FISCAL RESPONSBLITY
















THIS IS OUR CANDIDATE




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[Y2A]

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[Mr Beer]

So far Nalvaros and stimulant have made the most worthwhile contributions to this thread, by making me laugh. Although the 40 points also did that.

[RightWing]

shoudl i post pnaP 40 points also?

[MindsWideOpen]

shoudl i post pnaP 40 points also?

Sure, insanity is proportional to hilarity.



Anyhow, it is nice that the Falconist Party seemingly has dropped the New Dollar idea, although I did find it hilarious.

[Praetor]

What points in our platform do you consider outrageous and why?

[Mr Beer]

For me, most of the hilarity comes from the blatant wishful thinking. A lot of these laws are along the lines of "We call for a law that there will be world peace", "We call for a law which outlaws famine" and so on.