my ban has ended - and the feedback time. Options

[kindfluffysteve]

Its probably one of the reasons why the utopia-politics site is so insular.

basically for pages and pages I get called handfluffer by milton without moderator intervention, and then I call him - 'a silly twit' after some period of discussion.

and get a Warning, which leads to a ban.

and the ban happens because I have other warnings, which are all caused by silly frivalous faggot modding.

For example, discussion on stevietopia - I was anouncing my new website. that led to a warning that led to the latest warning being a ban. its a just a history of gay rule this site.

why does this happen? because my views and my expression is feared.

[Sephiroth]

You're not feared, you're hated.

[Telum]

My feedback for your ban is extremly positive.

[Lord Bitememan]

Tread lightly Stevie. There is a very low tolerance level for spamming and flaming in WF.

As to your complaints:
When Milton flames you, report it in the moderator thread. Action will probably be taken.

Prior transgressions against you do not excuse intollerable conduct on your part. Just because the other guy was driving 80 in a 45, that doesn't mean you weren't in violation of the speed limit doing 50.

I have reviewed your warnings, all were given justly, I suspect Lly would probably agree on this.

I suspect it's not so much your views which are setting off mod action but your means of expressing them. Many others have fairly radical views on this board, yet their conduct keeps them from being the target of moderator action. My recommendation is that you try posting without flaming people, ad hominem, and without marginalizing their opinions. Treat debate acedemically, and not like a troll, and you'll probably do fine.

[Dragonspirit]

basically for pages and pages I get called handfluffer by milton without moderator intervention

Proof? I've always though warn logs were not visible to users, or are you just assuming?

and the ban happens because I have other warnings

Which is always the policy for everyone. Or do you deserve special treatment?

For example, discussion on stevietopia - I was anouncing my new website. that led to a warning that led to the latest warning being a ban

You were unofficially warned, you persisted, and the inevitable happened. Why you would expect different confounds me.

[Oddfish]

Steve, quit whining about being banned. It will do you no favours.

[kindfluffysteve]

Tread lightly Stevie.  There is a very low tolerance level for spamming and flaming in WF.

As to your complaints:
When Milton flames you, report it in the moderator thread.  Action will probably be taken.

Prior transgressions against you do not excuse intollerable conduct on your part.  Just because the other guy was driving 80 in a 45, that doesn't mean you weren't in violation of the speed limit doing 50.

I just take insults in a more relaxed way - i dont generally get on pansy like about them.

[kindfluffysteve]

ou were unofficially warned, you persisted, and the inevitable happened. Why you would expect different confounds me.

Its a politics site. which is why I would expect different.

[Lord Bitememan]

Its a politics site.

Indeed, it is, and since the vast majority of what you post has a tenuous basis in real world politics, you shouldn't be suprised that a number of your threads get moved. You like to deal more in philisophical concepts more than pragmatic matters (which is what the nuts and bolts of politics is). Perhaps your polemics belong more on the philosophy board than the politics one.

[Gengari]

We have a forum you can go to, to express your philosophical ideals, and have them subsequently mocked and inevitably destroyed.

[kindfluffysteve]

We have a forum you can go to, to express your philosophical ideals, and have them subsequently mocked and inevitably destroyed.

you are obsessed with pigeon holing things. I tend to use politics for discussing isms or anything of a serious nature. most people here seem just to post news articles that they find interesting.

[Gengari]

Maby that's because that's what the forum is about?

Discussing of politics and local/global occurances.

Not philosophy or ideals.

[kindfluffysteve]

well what is politics?

[Bryan]

To be fair, if it's only real political systems that are allowed to be discussed in politics, how come the Falconist party thread remains there?

[Gengari]

Point taken.

[Dragonspirit]

Steve, you are going to have to learn that you are not special, and that you will not be treated as such here.

You break the rules, you get warned. You get warned too much, and you get temporarily banned. You get banned too much, and it may be made permanent.

I make no secret that I am not particularly fond of your politics. However, I am not fond of most people's politics, nor they of mine.

Yet somehow it's a relatively happy co-existance here between myself and them, and even my harshest critics often tend to support my moderation choices. Now ask yourself, why is that Steve?

It's because I am at least fair if nothing else. If you don't break the rules, you will have no problem with me. But I will NOT tolerate you flagrantly breaking them because you THINK you have the option to ignore them. Sorry, that is Swirve policy, not U-Ps.

[Telum]

To be fair, if it's only real political systems that are allowed to be discussed in politics, how come the Falconist party thread remains there?

Its not a political system. Its a political party that works in the confines of a real system.

Stevetopianism is just something made up by a delusional egomanianc who lives with his parents.

[Lord Bitememan]

I'm with Telum on this. The Falconist Party thread is about taking ideals (dumb ones, but still ideals) and putting them into action (inept as that action may turn out to be). Stevietopia is not a real system. It is not implemented. It is constructed mostly as a vehicle for expressing Steve's philisophical outlook on matters. There is no movement to implement Stevietopia, nor are there a cadre of die-hard Stevietopianists trying to make a presence in politics. If Steve wants to start this, he can, just not in a forum reserved for the discussion of real-world politics.

[Llywelyn]

I'm with Telum on this.  The Falconist Party thread is about taking ideals (dumb ones, but still ideals) and putting them into action (inept as that action may turn out to be).  Stevietopia is not a real system.  It is not implemented.  It is constructed mostly as a vehicle for expressing Steve's philisophical outlook on matters.  There is no movement to implement Stevietopia, nor are there a cadre of die-hard Stevietopianists trying to make a presence in politics.  If Steve wants to start this, he can, just not in a forum reserved for the discussion of real-world politics.

Quoting for emphasis.

I see no particular need to continue this.